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  Hell Exists

  by Poppy520 in

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  many people of all denominations are beginning to believe that hell does not exist - but the bible supports the claim that it does.

  examine this verse, one under nkjv and the other nwt:.

  nkjv - matthew 25:46, "and these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.".

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  Bungi Bill

  I guess I know where I am heading for, then!
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  Higher Education

  by Brian J in

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  just spent 8 hours in a 1 day elders school last weekend.

  clarification given: "moving forward any elder, ms, or pioneer who themselves or someone under their roof enrolls in higher education, may no longer qualify for privileges in the congregation.

  their qualifications will have to be reviewed by their boe.".

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  Bungi Bill

  the higher education ban screwed the Jws growing up in the eighties and nineties mostly.
  

  And those growing up in the sixties and seventies, too. ( #%^ the lot of them! )
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  Do we need spirituality or religion to be good socially responsible people ?

  by Finkelstein in

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  religion is declining in many countries around the world and hardly exists in some countries.. it would fair to say that scientifically acquired knowledge has taken a bite of religious practice over the years.

  the premising suggestion that there is a god looking at everything mankind does or should do is vanishing out the human consciousness.. should we emulate the social directives written in ancient manuscripts established by those ancients for their civilization ?

  is it possible that mankind can control and guide itself now with all the acquired knowledge we have attained, toward the ending betterment of humanity ?

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  Bungi Bill

  Ethics and religion are two quite separate matters.

  There are plenty of religious people around whose knowledge of ethics could be written on the back of a single postage stamp! Conversely, I know of a number of ethical people who will not have a bar of religion.
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  The end of this system is so very near.....NOT

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  world headquarters of jehovah's witnesses - warwick, new york.

  “yes, the end of this system is so very near!

  is that no reason to increase our activity?… reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service.

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  Alfred

  "There's no money for these poor Haitian brothers walking to the Kingdom Hall"

  In other words, "I'm all-right Jack, ^#*k you!"
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  "Armageddon is already here"; "the preaching work is done" -- rogue teachings in your congregation?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  2. beliefs

  one of my jw sons seems to be putting pressure on his non-jw brother apparently to scare him into accepting the troof and start coming to meetings.

  wild statements like our topic title, which i know are not supported at jw dot org, have been made to my non-jw son several times over the past year or so.

  while i haven't been privy to the actual phone conversations i tend to believe that the jw son is being pressured by the local elders to cut ties with the non-jw since their conversations seem to degrade into arguments -- therefore tending to weaken the jws faith in wt teachings.. either my jw son is lying about what i would call rogue teachings (and this would disappoint me greatly) or he is in some close knit clique in his congregation which has secretly chosen to go rogue on certain wt issues.. based on many of the recent posts here about drastic money and wt organization problems this could be a sign of pending splits of certain congregation members.. what do you think?

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  Bungi Bill

  smiddy3 and steve2,

  After all, the series of International Assemblies that were held during that year (1973) weren't entitled "Divine Victory" for nothing, were they ? (Well, actually, as it turned out, they were!)
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  Witness Royalty and the last day at the "Towers"

  by Lynnie in

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  my uber elder cousin and his wife got the "privilege" of having one last "toast" of wine at the rooftop garden at the towers in nyc since the jw's are vacating to warwick.

  his oldest daughter and son in law are quite high up in the inner circle so they get invited to all the "inner circle" activities.

  even though they aren't supposed to toast to anything it was pretty darn close.

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  Bungi Bill

  The term "Witness Royalty" hits the nail fairly on the head, There is such a thing all-right, or at least those that think they fit into that category!
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  Do you believe in god?

  by freakyAL in

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  i used to be a staunch believer in god.

  maybe its technology and science advancing so much thats got me doubting idk.

  do you believe in god?

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  Bungi Bill

  Somebody else (not sure who!) coined the expression "Religioned Out", but that best describes my present situation.

  Aerodynamic,

  No need to apologise for being "longwinded". There are many things that cannot be explained adequately in an eight second sound bite, a 140 character Tweet or similar!
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  Why pigs???

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  why did jesus supposedly cast the demons into a herd of pigs?.

  (matt 8 / luke 8).

  and, how were there so many demons inside one man, that when "released" by jesus, it took a whole pack of pigs to contain them??.

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  Bungi Bill

  Doubtfull1799,

  
  

  With you 100% on what you just wrote!

  Charles Dunn

  I for one will miss David's posts, and for similar reasons to those already stated by Doubtfull1799. However, if participation on this board is proving detrimental to him, then best he does refrain from further involvement.
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  Why pigs???

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why did jesus supposedly cast the demons into a herd of pigs?.

  (matt 8 / luke 8).

  and, how were there so many demons inside one man, that when "released" by jesus, it took a whole pack of pigs to contain them??.

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  EverApostate,

  Voltaire hit the nail fairly and squarely on the head with that statement!
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  The Trinity Easily Explained in 29 Words

  by maccauk in

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  a man can be a father .

  a man can be a son.

  a man can be a husband.

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  Bungi Bill

  Not that I could care less anymore, but when pressed back to the ropes about the trinity doctrine, clergymen of all persuasions will state words to the effect "It is a Holy Mystery that nobody can really understand".

  In other words, just like the JW's "Overlapping Generation" idea!